Q&A Friday 4 June 2010
By VoV | Q&A Friday | Friday 4th June 2010Q&A Friday is published every Friday while there is demand. Email your questions to vern@vov.co.nz. We won’t publish your name.
Cymbis
Question: I was informed by another ex-client that they had received 10% a month ago for Cymbis Enhanced Australia. They also told me that it is in the Aegis system but that it was up to Spicers Financial Services (where Kelvin Syms puts in an appearance every now and then) to pay it out immediately. As I am an ex-client of Vestar, can you give me the contact name of who I should contact (is it Aegis or is it Spicers?) to make sure that this goes into my bank account.
James Usmar says: Vestar was sold to Gould Wealth Management which was then sold to Spicers. If you haven’t appointed yourself a new adviser outside of the Spicers group then by default you are their client, so it is Spicers you need to contact.
Here is a press release from Spicers about the transition:
www.spicers.co.nz/default.aspx?MenuId=256
You can call them on 0800 777-803 and they should be able to help. Alternatively you can contact Vern Wilson vern@vov.co.nz. He has the name and DDI of someone at Spicers who can help.
Money Managers
Question: Recently my Money Managers’ advisor sent me a bill, just before leaving his job, charging me at an hourly rate of $150 + gst. Most of the time, according to the invoice, was for making notes. I’m retired for quite some time and out of touch with salaries and hourly rates. I just wonder whether his hourly fee is considered to be reasonable. During investing with MM, over the years, my MM advisor got his commission from my investments. So there were no hourly rate bills to pay. He never mentioned to me that he would charge an hourly rate of $150. It is this hourly rate that I question.
James Usmar says: The charging of hourly fees by advisors is likely to become more and more prevalent as regulation and investor education increases. The advice industry has had a real shake up over the last few years and the answer for some firms is to develop a professional services model, charging for their time very much like an accountant or lawyer does.
The amount and method by which an advisor is paid or how their firm charges should be clear to you before you invest or they undertake work for you. Advisers have been required to provide their clients with a disclosure statement or document (in writing) since 1996. This disclosure must be given to a client before any advice is given or any investment money is received. It must give specific information about the adviser, the products they give advice on, what the client fees are, and how they get paid.
This document should have been provided to you by your advisor and therefore receiving an invoice should come as no surprise. [Check the disclosure statement and see if it's covered - Vern] The amount that a firm charges is up to them and it is up to you as the client to decide whether this offers you value for money. You could call a couple of advisers and get comparative quotes from them or speak to your friends and find out what they get charged.
OPI Pacific (PAC)
Question: Are you able to give us some idea as to the latest position regarding OPI Pacific. There seems to be a void of information coming our way.
James Usmar says: Here is a quote from the latest receivers report for OPI published last month which basically sums it up:
“Due to the complexity of the receivership, the various claims being pursued and the investigations being carried out by the receivers, it is extremely difficult to estimate the return to secured debenture holders from the receivership of PAC. Providing an estimated return to secured debenture holders may also jeopardise any actions currently being exercised by the receivers. Accordingly, an estimate of future dividends or the timing of dividends to secured debenture holders cannot be provided at this time.”
The latest receivers report and letter to investors can be found here:
www.pwc.com/en_NZ/nz/opi-pacific-finance/OPI-Pacific-receivers-second-report-may-2010.pdf
And here:
www.pwc.com/en_NZ/nz/opi-pacific-finance/OPI-pacific-letter-to-investor-May-2010.pdf
About James Usmar
James was a qualified financial planner in the UK working for a tax consultancy firm. He specialised in investments through financial centres such as Jersey and the Isle of Man. James joined Saturn Portfolio as an investment adviser after immigrating to New Zealand in 2006.
About Saturn Portfolio
Saturn Portfolio is an investment advisory firm built on a history of trusted advice since 1988. They invest $160 million on behalf of clients. Four experienced client advisers work in the business. Saturn Portfolio is not aligned to any investment manager or product provider. This means they can freely select and recommend the most appropriate investments for you.
Their process is to discover and discuss your current situation, goals and investment knowledge. Once they assess your needs they give you a written plan, which they discuss with you and clarify any queries. They do not implement the recommendations until you give approval to proceed.
Importantly, Saturn Portfolio’s sole source of income is the fee you pay to them. They do not take any commission or brokerage from product providers. www.SaturnPortfolio.co.nz
Tags: Aegis, Cymbis, Gould Wealth Management, James Usmar, Kelvin Syms, Money Managers, OPI Pacific Finance, Saturn Portfolio, Spicers, Vestar
Friday 4th June 2010 at 9:27 pm
Cymbis Enhanced Australia repaid 20 cents in the dollar about 4 weeks ago. I have also been told to expect 30 cents in the dollar from Fairview which was formerly (Cymbis New Zealand) in the near future.
Saturday 5th June 2010 at 9:41 am
I have a list of questions relating to Clendon and Radius that we are working on for a future Q&A Friday. If you have any questions relating to these two companies, please email them to me (or leave as a comment below) and I will add them to the list.
Monday 7th June 2010 at 8:43 pm
I have shares in Radius but have been unable to find out their value or how I can go about selling them if I should wish to do so.
Tuesday 8th June 2010 at 7:01 pm
Ruth, the news is appalling! Reports on Radius published in Dec 09 and March 2010 and in articles in the National Business Review headed “Sandy Maier uncovers the awful truth at Radius Properties” highlight yet another Vestar disaster. Some of the extracts make dreadful reading, such as “Messrs Chris Holmes and Tony Hannon had significantly overstated the value of RPL’s assets in its 2009 accounts, and that the net asset value per share as at 2010 will be significantly lower than the 93 cents shown in the 2009 accounts” or how about “Material information had been withheld from accounts and Radius Properties faces a number of significant short term issues that place your investment at risk and that none of the legacy issues appear to have been properly disclosed to RPL shareholders” or “ The new directors are as outraged as you are at this situation we find ourselves in…and our current view is that some of these matters may end up in court”. Apart from a pathetic and insulting interest payment 6 months ago investors have received nothing for 3 years and are unable to get money out. Given the widely publicised and incestuous Kelvin Syms and Tony Hannon business relationship is it any surprise that Radius updates and accounts show interparty related loans, incompetent management and excessive management fees which has once again ended with another Vestar recommendation turning toxic! Add I-cap private equity fund (now Ascot), IMP Capital Stock, IMP Diversified Income fund, Clendon and Seniorcare and you have a portfolio of incestuous, illiquid rubbish all of which have made Syms and Hannon obscene amounts of money while shafting the thousands of people taken in by marketing which promoted “Well researched, independent and diversified portfolios”.
I see that VOV had an entry suggesting a name change for its blog site, an informed lawyer friend in Auckland suggested LOVE! “ Lies Of Vestar Exposed” which would be funny if it wasn’t so painfully and embarrassingly true.
Saturday 12th June 2010 at 9:28 am
Thanks for that Don. I wasn’t holding my breath given everything else to do with Vestar has turned to custard. Ir just seems to get worse as time goes by.
Tuesday 22nd June 2010 at 2:42 pm
I understand the majority of anything recoverable from OPI Pacific is tied up with the Octaviar liquidation by Bentley. Go to this page for more info.
The Wellington Capital Premium Income Fund (NSXA code PIN) is a competing creditor of Octaviar.
There has been plenty of activity over the last couple of months covered by Oz press. For an agregate go to the Octaviar thread at aussiestockforums.com.
The High Court Appeal has also kicked off. See this page for more info.
The less the Fortress get, the more PIF, OPI Pacific, Challenger and the Public Trustee of Queensland get.
Tuesday 22nd June 2010 at 2:43 pm
Link to the appeal to the High Court is:
http://www.hcourt.gov.au/registry/matters/21-06-10SP.pdf
Thursday 24th June 2010 at 11:15 am
PINvestor, many thanks for your excellent contribution and links. Very helpful.